Episode 5: Rob McDonald talks to Joop de Graaff

Rob McDonald talks to Joop De Graaff from Eindhoven, who worked in youth scouting for PSV from 2006 to 2020.

Joop never kicked a ball in professional football, but his real value lies off the pitch.

A true people person, he now focuses on the mental side of the game for young players and others. An honest and engaging conversation about choices, growth and mental strength.

Enjoy this inspiring episode of The Next Goal™.